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Sam Altman's Dirty DRAM Deal (mooreslawisdead.com)
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An American company, combined with American tariffs, and fear of American retaliation. Getting pretty tired of that place tbh.
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Can OpenAI hurry up and go bankrupt?
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I like how one of the reference links betrays how the article itself was researched, possibly written; HN hides the end of the url, which is "utm_source=chatgpt.com": > https://www.economist.com/business/2025/11/19/cracks-are-appearing-in-openais-dominant-facade?utm_source=chatgpt.com You have to appreciate the irony :)
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> On October 1st OpenAI signed two simultaneous deals with Samsung and SK Hynix for 40% of the worlds DRAM supply. The market doesn't believe they can pay for the Oracle cloud deal. Why do these vendors believe OpenAI can pay for 40% of the world's DRAM?
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They definitely can, as anybody could, for a short enough period of time. The only ones betting they'll be able to sustain it for a long period are the ones paying the currently very inflated price for ram.
Why would one sell something cheaper than the current market value? I wouldnt care if i had stock or not, prices should be what things cost.
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When someone buys up all the supply, the price will rise because of supply and demand. It's the nature of markets. TFA mentions that if Samsung and SK Hynix had known what shenanigans were underway, they would have pursued better pricing terms.
I'm curious how OpenAI has the funds to pay for 40% of the worlds ram production? Sure they are big and have a few billions but I kind of assumed that 40% for a year or whatever they are buying is easily double digit billions? That has to hurt even them, especially because they cant buy anything else? Also what are these contracts? Surely Samsung could decide to cancel the contract by paying a large fee but is that fee truly so large that getting their ram back when prices are now 4x of what they used to be is not worth it?
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I found this which claims ram market in 2024 was almost 100 billion: https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/random-access-memory-market-report I assume this includes more than just the raw price of modules but Openai only has 60 billion in funding altogether and was aiming for 20 billion ARR this year. This sounds like they are spending maybe half their money on RAM they never use? That just doesn't add up.
> OpenAI isn’t even bothering to buy finished memory modules And? Why should they be obligated to pay for all the middleman steps from fab down to module? That includes: wafer-level test, module-level test (DC, AC, parametric), packaging, post-packaging test, and module fabrication. There's nothing illegal or sketchy about saying, "give me the wafers, I'll take care of everything else myself." > not even allocated to a specific DRAM standard yet DRAM manufacturers design and fabricate chips to sell into a standardized, commodity market. There's no secret evolutionary step which occurs after the wafers are etched which turns chips into something which adheres to DDR4,5,6,7,8,9 > It’s not even clear if they have decided yet on how or when they will finish them into RAM sticks or HBM Who cares?
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The implication here is that the primary goal is to corner the market, not to use the supply. If you aren't going to use them anyways then of course it is silly to pay for them to be finished. Do you think that's fine, or do you think that implication is wrong and OpenAI does actually plan to deploy 40% of the world's DRAM supply?
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> The implication here is that the primary goal is to corner the market You have no evidence of that. Even at face value, the idea of "cornering the market" on a depreciating asset with no long-term value isn't a war strategy, it's flushing money down the toilet. Moreover, there's a credible argument OpenAI wanted to secure capacity in an essential part of their upstream supply chain to ensure stable prices for themselves. That's not "cornering the market," either, it's securing stability for their own growth. Apple used to buy-up almost all leading-edge semiconductor process capacity from TSMC. It wasn't to resell capacity to everyone else, it was to secure capacity for themselves (particularly for new product launches). Nvidia has been doing the same since the CUDA bubble took off (they have, in effect, two entire fabs worth of leading-edge production just for their GPUs/accelerators). Have they been "cornering" the deep sub-micron foundry market?
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Yes, they've made insane scaling bets before and they have paid off. If what we've heard about no acceptable pre-training runs from them in the last two years trying to increase the memory for training by two orders of magnitude is just a rehash of what got them from gpt2 to gpt3.
Secondary RAM Manufacturing Had Stalled. Budget brands normally buy older DRAM fabrication equipment from mega-producers like Samsung when Samsung upgrades their DRAM lines to the latest and greatest equipment. This allows the DRAM market to expand more than it would otherwise because it makes any upgrading of the fanciest production lines to still be additive change to the market. However, Korean memory firms have been terrified that reselling old equipment to China-adjacent OEMs might trigger U.S. retaliation…and so those machines have been sitting idle in warehouses since early spring. My takeaway, this sounds like an comparably easy fix for the consumer market, if prices are somewhat guarenteed to stay mid term significantly above this years spring floor for someone to sweep up the margins and negotiate a somewhat reliable way to get the last gen production lines up and running again. Will take at least half a year to pick up, but this is not a longterm RAM doomsday scenario in any sense. I'm more worried about the low to mid-end embedded systems, that a have a dollar budget for memory components, that could get unbearably slow for the current/next gen if manufactures just use the bare minimum of RAM the bloated TV or tablet OS can run on, if the 1GB raspberry move is any indication of that. And consumers stuck with no way to upgrade them to a reasonably usable state.
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If prices are guaranteed to stay high in the medium term, then I'm not sure that's acutally a fix.
It's not really that different from Apple reserving wafer starts on TSMC's next node and so on. It's just that this kind of capacity requirement has rarely shown up in DRAM before. Vendors prefer this kind of capacity reservation over a more variable finished product requirement. It allows them to know that they can build at the bottleneck rather than having to start up more capacity and then having that lie idle while everything downstream in DRAM packaging and DIMM production can't actually consume anything.
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Did Apple reserve 40% of the supply and cause a massive shortage. If not, then I don't see how its the same.
I don't buy it. It's easier to make this argument for companies that are building their own hardware, since they know it can be immediately used. OpenAI's move is tantamount to hoarding for the sake of strangling competition. There was plenty of supply to allow for their plans without this move (especially since they will probably go bankrupt at this rate).
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How exactly could they 'hoard' this? There's no place in the world to store that much undiced wafer. It will all go bad.
On paper it can sound rational. In reality you look at stuff like cars, for only so long people will tolerate buying a car for $60k when other countries, whom you are also competing with, get buy similar cars for $10-20k from China. Those same vehicles are used to boost productivity in your own domestic industries. There is always a ton of risk involved with protectionism. Primarily whether your taxpayer-subsidized domestic jobs and hypothetical national security risk significantly outweighs all the very real economic costs.
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> buying a car for $60k when other countries, whom you are also competing with, get buy similar cars for $10-20k from China I'd love to hear your examples of this happening. For $22K you can get a BYD Dolphin Surf in Europe. And that's a pretty small car. What are you paying $60K for in the US that's the same size? Maybe let's try a different match up. The BYD Atto 3 seems to start around 40K in Europe. It's smaller than a Model Y, and people say it is slightly lower in market position, but close enough. The Model Y starts at around 40K as well. Are the comparisons between expensive US cars (remember the average is just above 50K, and plenty of perfectly good cars like a Honda Civic can be had for half that) and Chinese cars in China ?
Who in developed countries doesn't buy computers and by extension ram
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Who in the developed world doesn't have a few luxuries? Pretty much all of history people have had to make do with RAM being a lot less accessible than it is now. It isn't essential and people can still buy RAM in the rare situations where they actually need it. There is nothing here worth invoking the legal system over. OpenAI can buy huge amounts of RAM if they want. Good luck to them, hope it works out, looks like an expensive and risky manoeuvre. And we're probably going to have a RAM glut in a few years looking at these prices.
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DRAM is one of the categories of advanced semiconductors that the US considers important enough to national security that exporting it to China is forbidden. It's a fundamental industrial product.
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I don't follow how computers are not essential.
It wouldn't shock me if this is actually just market manipulation. OpenAI in the past year seems to be operating more and more like a pump and dump machine. Their recent AMD deal seems to have been AMD giving them a bunch of stock for free in exchange for them announcing that they would use AMD GPUs for training, and OpenAI doesn't have any fab equipment so the only thing they can do with 40% of the global dram supply is sell it to someone else.
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the only thing they can do with 40% of the global dram supply is sell it to someone else. The way it works is that OpenAI will have the DRAM delivered to Nvidia/AMD/Broadcom to be assembled into the racks that OpenAI buys.
I read "US Justice Department" the same way I read "Britain's Ministry of Truth".
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When I hear about this US justice department, I hear the mafia enforcement.
The current Justice Department? You're kidding, right?
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Google just need to give the US regime a solid gold award for what? unimportant
The law you refer to applies only to markets for securities. RAM is very clearly not a security, it fails the Howey test. There are similar laws prohibiting the manipulation of commodity markets but I do not believe a US court would find RAM to be a commodity.
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How is RAM not a commodity?
If OpenAI were actually using the RAM that’s one thing - but stockpiling raw wafers in warehouses is egregious.
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Yup. Not exactly a move "for the good of the world". Also consider: Warehouses of small, high-value items that are fungible and untraceable. That will create multiple huge targets for a big heist. And they'd best have good eyes on their security people too. Sounds like something big enough for organized crime to target.
Adenosine on the common path of rapid antidepressant action: The coffee paradox (genomicpress.kglmeridian.com)
I never knew that “acute intermittent hypoxia” was a known treatment for depression, but I’ve found both freediving and Wim Hof breathing to be effective at treating my depression- however never the two at the same time as that is extremely dangerous.
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Completely anecdotal but I've found Ujjayi Breathing from yoga to have an enormously calming effect. Long exhales in general with a short pause at the end, before inhaling, are also incredibly useful. I try to do this as often as I need.
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I’ve found wim hof no more effective than laughing gas. Very short euphoric high then back to where I was plus a slight headache.
This appears to be some kind of AI-slop rapid response to a piece of actual research (over at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09755-9 ). I don't mind discussing that, but this piece should never have been published. Just look at Figure 2 if you don't believe me, or the publication timeline.
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Agreed. It even has the classic “this not that” and “from this to that” LLM tells in the headline. I would suggest ignoring this document and reading the Nature article linked in the comment above.
ChatGPT conclusion about this: > sleep deprivation can temporarily boost mood in some depressed people, and research suggests this may involve a short-term surge in adenosine and other metabolic changes, similar to rapid antidepressants.
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This is also true that sleep deprivation can act as shock therapy! But it seems to still indicate that depression can be caused by chronic adenosine dysfunction. So temporary sleep deprivation will put the adenosine system in a state it isn't usually in, and alleviate symptoms.
On chronic coffee consumption: "One meta-analysis found that RR coffee 0.757, RR caffeine 0.721 (12). Another one found RR 0.76, with an optimal protective effect at ∼400 mL/day (13). In comparison to many drug treatments that have an effect size in this range, this is not a small effect size. A risk reduction of 20 to 25% is quite impressive." As if I needed another reason to drink coffee.
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One thing you learn from reading depression papers is that there are a lot of things that supposedly have significant effects on depression according to some papers, but then fail to work when people try them or they’re tested in trials. The linked paper is pretty obvious AI paper mill content, so I wouldn’t take anything it says as directly true without checking citations. The citation is a meta-analysis so you’d have to check the criteria and the studies. The most common explanation for the “everything treats depression” result is inclusion of studies that have no control group. The placebo response rate in depression studies is very high as many patients revert to the mean of being not-super-depressed after they are so depressed that they enroll in a study for depression treatments. Paper writers seeking a positive result will abuse this to their benefit by omitting the control group. They’ll collect depressed patients, give them some treatment, and when the average improves they’ll publish a paper saying that the treatment has positive effects in depression. So after reading a lot of papers about depression, you start dismissing claims by default unless you can confirm they came from a properly powered, placebo-controlled, double-blind study. But hey, if you’re already drinking coffee and enjoying it, continue to enjoy it!
It’s 100% the addiction. It’s ok, me too. At home I’m a 4-6 cup a day drinker. On the go 2-3 Starbucks. I have a serious problem.
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Addiction to any given substance is highly variable from person to person, and there's a lot of data to back that up. I recall a friend describing their struggle to quit caffeine, which I mocked at first, until I realized it sounded exactly like my brutal struggle to quit nicotine. Yet, plenty of people quit cigarettes effortlessly. Nicotine is one of the most variable, but caffeine, alcohol and cocaine vary widely too. I imagine we'd find this is the case for most substances if we had the data. In a sane world, we'd give every kid their addiction predisposition profile when they turn 13.
I'm not gonna lie, double espresso with ritalin before work is pretty good too. It's the T+2 date which is uncool.
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That’s the ritalin. Find a healthier alternative like an energy bar with that double espresso. I find if I stack too much at once, I crash. One cup in the morning when I wake up. One before work right before the meetings. One in the afternoon to keep me fueled until dinner where I let myself gorge on protein and sugars until I crash.
It'd be extraordinary compelling to genuinely have a unified mechanism to explain depression treatments, but I am not qualified to make heads or tails of the research. Wondering what the take of those with relevant experience is on this?
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Not an expert, but the standout thing about ketamine in particular is that it targets an entirely different neurotransmitter pathway than almost all traditional anxiety and depression meds. Traditionally, people treating serious depression or anxiety rotate through a variety of drugs that all hit same small set of neurotransmitters and settle on the one that works the best/sucks the least. This is why people get excited about ketamine and psychedelics as therapeutics. Otherwise, we're just sitting around waiting for the next round of "new" drugs that manipulate the same pathways as all the old drugs (and carry much of the same risks).
Frank Gehry has died (bbc.co.uk)
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I've walked past the 'folding into itself' building in Prague quite a few times, and never once realised it was a Gehry. I have also walked a fair bit in downtown LA, during summer, and seen some hot spots without understanding the nature of Gehry's ability, to reflect. He lived a long time to have built a lot of interesting places for his fellow humans to reflect, and live in. An architect of light, mostly.
I worked in the IAC NYC HQ for a while (as Dir Engineering for The Daily Beast). It was really nice walking into that space. Always been influenced by architecture in my engineering career and it was really nice to have that pedigree infused into my workspace just a little bit. It's just a little dose of delight every day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAC_Building
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I also worked there for quite some time and always enjoyed walking into that building each morning. The 9th (top) floor cafeteria was such a nice touch and offered great views up and down the Hudson. I took this photo[0] from up there of Space Shuttle Enterprise being delivered to the Intrepid in 2012. [0] https://imgur.com/a/XQpXXzE
Rhino 3d was the first 3d modeling app I had ever used. I was in high school. It was so hard :-) but very cool. Used to take an hour to render a simple teapot. I could probably render that in realtime now.
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Yeah, I used to have to borrow my son's gaming computer to calculate toolpaths in pyCAM....
I grew up a few blocks from his funky Santa Monica house [1], passed by it all the time. When you’re a kid you typically see wild new things like that as just normal because you have no context for how unusual they are. His house defied that perspective; even as a kid you understand that being wrapped in oddly angled chain link fences and corrugated metal is just... different. It's an unanswered question, a loose thread, a thing you can't unknow. I don't particularly like the house - it's meant to be challenging not beautiful - but with perspective I see now there aren't many creations out there that achieve existence in eternal confusion like it does for me. I see his other works like Bilbao [2] and Disney Hall as refinements on the concept with the added dimension of beauty. They're not quite as memorable, but I think do a great job exploring the frontier of beauty and befuddlement. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehry_Residence [2] especially the aerial perspective https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guggenheim_Museum_Bilbao#/media/File:Guggenheim_Bilbao_aerial_view.jpg
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The Santa Monica spot was, personally, a bit of an eye-sore after about 8 years. I kept wishing someone else would rise to the flamboyance, but nobody ever really did. Well, I'm wrong of course, but I never did see such a striking spot until I got to Europe, or whatever ..
He also designed a Facebook’s office in Menlo Park. The roof was literally a park, seemingly blending with the bay and you could go for a nice nature stroll mid-day by just going up a flight of stairs. https://arquitecturaviva.com/works/facebook-campus-in-menlo-park
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Did he design the yellow pedestrian/biker bridge connecting Facebook to the the Bayfront? I recently drove underneath it and it's quite interesting.
I first heard of him through The Simpsons and will forever think of "Hey Frank Gehry! like curvilinear forms, much?" when I hear his name.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p6rrn-PimU
A $20 drug in Europe requires a prescription and $800 in the U.S. (statnews.com)
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Not only drug costs. I’m being charged 1300$ for an STD test because my insurance company and my doctor can’t agree on a “code”. It’s totally fucked.
The US spends more money on healthcare than any other country (per capita and in PPP-adjusted terms), with the lowest life expectancy out of all of its peers [1]. Make of that what you will, but that tells me that after cutting out all the corporate abuse and inefficiency, the average person should be spending about the same for similar standard of care, except without all the bureaucracy and stress. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita
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While it’s true that the U.S. spends way too much on healthcare (more than any other country as you said), the fact that it has a mediocre life expectancy is almost entirely due to things that have little to do with the quality of health care. Much more driving than most other countries resulting in more auto accidents and thus deaths, way more guns resulting in more murders and suicides, etc. Drug overdoses, in particular opiates, are probably the biggest one than can arguably be linked to healthcare.
Teflon is also PFAS. The whole PFAS scare is overblown.
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> The whole PFAS scare is overblown. You have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about. If you actually think the scare is overblown, I dare you to drink the whole bottle of that eyedrop.
It's most definitely going to accumulate inside the body, although slowly.
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Yes, but too slowly to matter. Average person consumes 1.5 liters per day of water, so if you live to 100 that's 55000 liters. At 1 ppt that's 1 ng / liter, or 55 ug over a lifetime. That's multiple orders of magnitude less than one drop of the stuff to your eye.
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We will know after the drops have been out for over a decade, and actual real-world safety data studies get published. Meanwhile, Restasis (cyclosporine A) (or a generic) works well, and doesn't have to be applied all day long, just two or three times a day. It does burn the eye initially, but it's not harmful, and the burning goes slowly away over time. It does take a few months to start working.
Leaving Intel (brendangregg.com)
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dude loves the color salmon
> "I also supported cloud computing, participating in 110 customer meetings, and created a company-wide strategy to win back the cloud with 33 specific recommendations, in collaboration with others across 6 organizations." Man people keep count of this stuff?! Maybe I should too, it does make flexing easier.
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Use gcalcli to search for meetings with customer invited. That's it! Also, for an engineer that isn't in sales, 110 customer meetings is A LOT.
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"Count your meetings" Wouldn't hurt to try!
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If you look at many of his recent blog entries, it is clear he has felt the need to quantify his impact to prove he isn’t less effective as a remote employee in Australia working for a company in the US.
A "goodbye" post after only 3.5 years. Hard to relate. In my world it's hard to imagine an impact after that short of a time. And in fact, reading the list of accomplishments ("interviewed by the Wall Street Journal") makes it clear it's a good PR piece. I'm perfectly willing to believe he's fabulous, but this didn't move the needle for me.
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ive been at my company 16 years and still haven't had an impact, so... yeah.
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Dude shipped flamegraphs (which he also created in 2011) for cloud GPU loads and persuaded internal stakeholders to release the code as open source. The "interviewed by the WSJ" line is for managers. Reading between the lines, I'd say he did really well and, if he didn't do better, it's because the organisation didn't let him.
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> The "interviewed by the WSJ" line is for managers. It’s a green flag for hiring managers for sure. Even a lot of valued employees wouldn’t be allowed to represent a big company to the WSJ for various reasons, even with a PR person sitting next to them.
I’m wonder how much longer Intel will be around. It seems to be dying a slow death like Kodak or IBM at this point.
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Intel still sells a ton of silicon.
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Lindy[1] will make sure it stays around for a while. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_effect
Where do you think he's going next? OpenAI? Google? Just saving 1% on inference could probably justify his salary 100fold
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Definitely feels like someplace with GPUs that will let him work remotely.
Advertising as a major source of human dissatisfaction (2019) [pdf] (andrewoswald.com)
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Sometimes, I think of how much good could be done with all the money that goes into advertisements. Even if we just put all that money in The Onion's Money Hole™, so all the ads disappear, but nothing else changes, the world would still be a better place. Now imagine how much better public transit systems we could have, or better healthcare, or better social benefits. Even if we just spent all the money on a solid 80 foot golden cock and balls, that would still be a better use of money, since it atleast isn't actively making the world a more hostile place. But no, we can't have nice things.
Yet how many of our jobs wouldn't exist without advertising ... I'm not saying it's right or wrong just a fact. Advertising is foundational to many modern industries, especially digital ones. Social platforms, media companies, search engines, news, free apps, podcasts, streaming tiers. A ton of your daily internet exists because ads bankroll the whole mess. Without advertising, half the tech economy collapses into subscription-only fiefdoms. Unfortunately if advertising vanished tomorrow, lots of companies would die, tons of jobs would evaporate, and the economy would contort into something unrecognizable.
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The industry doesn't seem to have a problem doing the same with AI (it's questionable if AI can actually do it to any major society-changing extent, but it sure is what those same companies want to happen).
There are two kinds of advertising. I will call them "scarcity advertising" and "abundance advertising". Scarcity advertising is, for example, "Joe's grocery now has cantaloupes" (back in the day when cantaloupes were not available all year). It's information - something is now available that wasn't available before. Abundance advertising is, for example, "The Chevrolet SomeHotCar will give you an exciting life like the people in this ad. Don't you want that?" As someone put it (wish I remember who, I would give credit): "[This kind of] advertising attempts to make the person you are envy the person you could be with their product. In other words, it attempts to steal your satisfaction and then offers to sell it back to you." The first kind of advertising is useful. The second is abusive.
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What a great way to put it. I went looking and it’s from John Berger’s Ways of Seeing. > The spectator-buyer is meant to envy herself as she will become if she buys the product. She is meant to imagine herself transformed by the product into an object of envy for others, an envy which will then justify her loving herself. One could put this another way: the publicity image steals her love of herself as she is, and offers it back to her for the price of the product. https://www.ways-of-seeing.com/ch7
Currently I think it is difficult to argue that advertising in its most visible forms have any serious benefit to people looking to obtain a service. How often does an actual random advertisement shown on a billboard or a preroll youtube ad actually lead to a quality product? I think it is fairly common for people who are acquiring the best versions of things to do so primarily through research in forums or reviews, which is coming from the user looking from the product, rather than the product forcing itself into the mind of a given user to convince them to consume it.
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The highest margins buy the most advertisements.
I would agree, that I would rather not suffer imposed advertising I did not ask for even if missing out some products. However, you can have e.g. a magazine that lists computer parts if you want to buy that (as mentioned by another comment), or in a restaurant that has a sign on the wall (or a printed menu) indicating new items, or a news paper might have a section relating to restaurants or movies or whatever else you might want to buy, or there might be publications that specialize in these things if you are deliberately trying to look for them. They should not need to put advertising anywhere, and they should not need to make it excessive or abusive or dishonest like they do, etc. (Products that they advertise way too much often have some problems other than just the advertising, too.)
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Okay, thw question then becomes: How do we get people to deliberatly look? Say I have this stunning webshop with margins smaller than bezos toilet breaks. How do I survive out there in the jungle?
They just gave you a potential customer's perspective. The fact you wrote this off as uninteresting is telling.
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Thats like saying i dont care if i have to rub the product in your face as long as you buy it it is fine with me. I've got mine jack! lol
I see some adverts on YouTube on channels I watch, I just jump ahead (“commonly skipped section” feature). Some I actually enjoy and don’t jump over (map men ones are typically good). I don’t recognise this “wait 5 seconds” bit.
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That bit is for the preroll ad you get without an adblocker.
Framework Sponsors CachyOS (discuss.cachyos.org)
Very interesting that Valve and Framework seem to be throwing their eggs in the Arch basket over Debian/Ubuntu. When I got my first computer, I installed Ubuntu because it was dominant. Maybe it still is for the average Linux downloader, but why are the Hardware companies more into Arch?
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We also sponsor Debian. We are distro-agnostic and pick our sponsorships largely based on what we see Framework Laptop owners using in our post-purchase surveys and community polls.
drewdevault should be the last person anybody uses as a judge of character or facts https://dmpwn.info/
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Drewdevault is a weird guy with enough of his own problems (one of which your link explains), but that doesn't make his judgement of DHH any more or less factual.
Noam Chomsky: 'If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.' Also, your solution doesn't solve your problem: your colleague won't stop to hold ideas that you don't like, nor his blog will disappear. If it's just a blog, he didn't harmed anybody, whereas you got him fired.
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There's multiple levels of freedom of expression. You could argue, and people do, that the company has it's own right to freedom of expression, and wants to portray itself in the way it wants, and that necessarily involves deciding who they work with. For example, if I told you that you are forced to associate yourself publicly with someone you don't like and don't want to associate with, then you might say I'm hindering your freedom of expression. And this is missing the elephant in the room: white supremacy is fundamentally anti-free-expression. That's one of it's core tenants. So we have a little bit of tolerance paradox here. If we allow those who oppose free expression to freely express that, then they express it by limiting free expression, then by allowing free expression we've actually suppressed free expression. So, it's tricky.
>Do you ask the political opinions of everyone you work with they are the HR of IT ofc they do a ideological sniff test on anybody they even so much as talk to. Can't have anybody disagreeing in this tolerant space.
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Everyone does an ideological sniff test of everyone they interact with. You don't want to be friends with wackjobs or racists or whatever, because the odds those people suck in other ways is very, very high. I also hate the framing of "disagreeing" in these discussions. It's perfectly valid to distance yourself from people because you disagree, and this is something you yourself practice on a daily basis. That is just being human.
Thanks, it makes at least some sense then. I'd expect them to sponsor Omarchy similarly then, in my twittersphere that made way more noise lately
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They're not sponsoring Omarchy with a regular donation. They posted about it on Twitter and gave DHH a free Framework for testing
Ahh, thanks for sharing. I like the guy even more now. Finally someone in tech that is open about their opinion and understands that importing endless amounts of people from different cultures doesn't lead to anything positive.
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This naturally ends up being controversial, especially in tech, when some of our brightest minds are from other cultures. It doesn't help his case that he's not even from the places he complains about, so he's another outsider complaining about outsiders, which always looks bad.
Why we built Lightpanda in Zig (lightpanda.io)
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Gotta admit there is something funny about a browser company saying Rust is not well suited for browser development given why it was created in the first place
> Zig particularly shines: comptime metaprogramming, explicit memory allocators, and best-in-class C interoperability. Not to mention the ongoing work on compilation times The D programming language shines: comptime: https://dlang.org/spec/function.html#interpretation metaprogramming: https://dlang.org/spec/template.html#function-templates explicit memory allocators: these are easily made, there's nothing special about them, I use them all the time best-in-class C interoperability: Nothing beats D's ImportC, where you can import a .c file as if it were a module. You can even use ImportC to translate your C code to D! https://dlang.org/spec/importc.html Performance: same as C and C++
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>Nothing beats D's ImportC What does it offer over Zig's translate-c?
Why D sees low adoption?
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In part, the compiler wasn't fully FOSS until 2017.
We could do a better job at marketing
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Build the “killer app” that the audience wants and needs and where D is the best lang to do it and justify the investment in learning yet another lang. I have no idea of what that is and nobody knows, it’s the universal problem of any product/lang/tech. Right place at the right time I guess
If Zig's core developers decided tomorrow they wanted to do something else, would that result in the rest of the devs slowly leaving, and Zig being unmaintained after a couple years? Might be possible; but it would be impossible with C, C++, Java, etc. If you give me a choice between two products, one in Zig and one in Java, and I need to run it for two decades, I'm picking the Java one (and I dislike Java)
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It’s a question of risk vs reward and it’s assessment
No, you don't. Lets be honest Zig is a shiny new shit for people who doesn't want to learn and want everything to be familiar but new. Criticism of it is not allowed and would be downvoted by bandwagon fanboys.
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That might be true or not. But I’m sure you’re aware your post didn’t offer anything constructive and for that reason alone should be downvoted. Familiar is different from the same, therefore is new. And zig has many new concepts and things different from C
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