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Sure, but why do you think they're marketed these services, who would it be valuable too... Most VPN companies are incredibly sus, outside of Mulvad they're mostly all incredibly suspicious imo. Western intelligence is desperate to enable the use of such tools in enemy territory so they can bombard enemy culture with American culture and make the populations eager to adopt American/Western customs and as a byproduct install leaders who are pro western ideology and less likely to be adversarial. VPNs when marketed to these countries should be seen as tools of propaganda dissemination l, in my opinion. The EFF will talk a big game about how this tech is about freedom of information, human rights and democracy.but really they're founded by a bunch of US Naval Research guys who are basically taksed with building the "cyber" infrastructure to ideologically invade adversial countries so they can be psychologically colonized. They then launder that mission with discussions about free speech and democracy. The original US Army's Psychological Operations Unit, was called the "Ghost Army" they used a patch with a ghost hovering over an implied target shooting electricity from its hands. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Ghostarmypatch.jpg?utm_source=en.wikipedia.org&utm_campaign=parser&utm_content=thumbnail_unscaled The ghost on the patch is symbolic for beaming in signals into enemy territory to brainwash, intimidate and control an enemy population. The reason that China, Russia and Iran have nation state firewalls is because the US is so good at this, and the US wants to control any country who has any potential of competing with it. Its not because they hate freedom or something, its because anyone the US has deemed an economic or ideological opponent will be targeted in this way. We will beam signals through whatever means/protocol into a country to gain a psychological foothold in their culture, we will then convince them to kill their leaders and install US puppets. I routinely say that Starlink should make its logo the Ghost Army patch, because thats what it was built for. While it functions as a cool business, and does provide value, it was created as the ultimate propaganda dissemination tool (eventually atleast, it will be very hard to mitigate against if they can pull off some sort of cellular implementation of Starlink, which they're actively working towards). TOR and VPN companies attempted to serve this purpose, when this paradigm failed to be a general purpose tool for bypassing nation state firewalls they had to find another way so they helped Elon bootstrap a literal satallite constellation for this purpose. Its literally the Ghost in the sky waving its hand over a population with few ways to prevent its use. The VPN industry in China, Russia and Iran are weapons for this agenda.
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> how do you guarantee that Starlink doesn't turn to crap after it is nationalized How do you guarantee that Starlink doesn't turn to crap if you don't nationalize it? Its a silly question. Governments have successfully operated various telecommunication systems for a long time. Lots of modern telecommunications and sat tech comes out of the government. But this will depend on each countries experience. I think one can make a solid argument that the denationalization of telco systems in the 90s was a mistake. Same goes for the breakup of AT&T. The better option would have been to just nationalize the baby bells. And make AT&T focus on long distance competition and the technology. Maybe also nationalize Bell Labs and keep it operating financed from a the income of the Baby Bells. Because what actually happened is that these Baby Bells simply got massive monopolies, made gigantic profits and were then able to do lots of other infrastructure plays and then mostly glob back together. > take it "because its so vital to national security". I think for that you don't need to take it. If you take (forced sale) it, it would be because you want to provide universal access subsidized without lining Musk pockets even more. But you would need a real long term vision for this to be worth it. > Furthermore why can't someone just copy them? Drop a ton of money on poaching their engineers and just copy whatever the government needs? Because the system is already built and working, why spend the capital on building the same thing again. For me some kind of open access law would make more then nationalization. But the suggestion to nationalize isn't crazy.
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